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Americans can't guarantee free speech, again

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寮、 2022/04/06 — blog, censorship, politics

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND yet another example about why Americans should never be trusted as a guarantor of free speech:
https://denshi.org/antiporn.html

Sure, you’re free to dislike porn, you’re free to dislike whatever, but as soon as you start calling for censorship (regardless of what you want to see censored), then all trust is lost for good.

Us adults should be allowed to decide what we do, your dogma/ideology is not our (collective) opinion.

A debate between Udon and 寮

@ryo The consumption of pornography is morally corrupt, mentally debilitating and detrimental to society.

@udon Could be, but that’s not the point.
Even if it’s porn censorship, censorship = censorship.
And censorship = anti free speech. And porn is always the 2nd thing that gets censored, 1st is lolicon and shotacon.
After that, censors start expanding into every other topic.
So even if you hate lolicon, shotacon, and/or porn, no censorship shall be supported, because as soon as censorship exists, it’s only going to expand.

@ryo (I’m just copy-pasting btw) Notice they always love to represent the ‘society’.\

@udon Ah, I thought it was your opinion.

@ryo I hope people need to understand the effects objectively, which is, there exists no such ‘good people’ doing ‘good things/missions’, and vise versa.

@udon What is considered “good people” depends on how your mind is programmed to view good and bad (or good and evil like how it’s viewed by most people these days).

For example, the lethal injection takers believe you need to comply with government mandates to get the lockdowns to end, while the people speaking out against it believe you need to oppose it to get the lockdowns to end.
Both sides mean good, and both sides see the opposite side as the evil that prolongs the lockdowns.

In the end, neither way lockdowns are going to end, because those who are calling the shots won’t get removed or won’t back off regardless of which side you’re on.
And as long as both sides remain divided, no one is going to overthrow their mini-Hitlers.

@udon

What is considered “good people” depends on how your mind is programmed to view good and bad (or good and evil like how it’s viewed by most people these days).

Government and big coporations are always good people.

@ryo At least more good than the UN/WEF one world government.

@udon They are not that different other than the formality.

@ryo Not in policy, but in a multi-government system at least you get the option to get out of extreme tyranny and go to somewhere more sane (for example Canadians, Australians, and Dutch migrating to Mexico, Niceragua, Belarus, and Romania).
Under a one world government system, unless somebody finally invents space travel somehow, there’s literally no escape.

@udon Forget about finding freedoms in other planets. You can’t live/move without their support/devices.